It comes amid claims, referenced by Hannity, that Elon Musk is actually in charge rather than Trump—a point picked up after the interview by The Atlantic ’s Tom Nichols, who wrote: “Like many Americans lately, I am seized with curiosity about who is actually running the government of the United States. But I am still not sure who’s in charge.”

The president and his tech billionaire adviser, who are making sweeping cuts to the federal government, spoke with host Sean Hannity.